2015 15-inch Retina MacBook Pro’s dGPU (R9 M370X) Is Cape Verdeby Ryan Smith on May 23, 2015 12:16 AM EST
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Earlier this week Apple announced their 2015 15” Retina MacBook Pro. Though Apple didn’t make any CPU changes, they did make some GPU changes on the high-end model, swapping out NVIDIA’s GeForce GT 750M for AMD’s Radeon R9 M370X. Since the M370X was not a published part number in AMD’s recently-announced 2015 Radeon M300 series refresh lineup, there have been some questions over just what M370X really is.
At the time of the rMBP’s launch, we suspected that it was an AMD Cape Verde GPU, based on the fact that this GPU is also in the M375, which is the next part above M370X. With the new laptop shipping immediately, M370X models have already begun arriving in buyers’ hands, finally giving us a chance to confirm the GPU inside.
Image courtesy Reddit user ootan
Thanks to Reddit user ootan, who posted a screenshot of the rMBP’s System Profiler, we can now confirm that the GPU in the rMBP is in fact AMD’s Cape Verde GPU. AMD has previously used the 6821 device ID on other mobile Cape Verde parts, so 6821 is already a known quantity.
|AMD M300 Series GPU Specification Comparison|
|R9 M375||R9 M370X (rMBP)||R7 M360|
|Was||Variant of R9 M270/M260||Variant of R9 M270X||Variant of R7 M270/M260|
|Memory Clock||2.2GHz DDR3||4.5GHz GDDR5||2GHz DDR3|
|Memory Bus Width||128-bit||128-bit||64-bit|
|GPU||Cape Verde||Cape Verde||Oland/Topaz|
|Manufacturing Process||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm|
|Architecture||GCN 1.0||GCN 1.0||GCN 1.0|
As for Cape Verde itself, as our regular readers may already know, it’s one of AMD’s first-generation GCN 1.0 GPUs, launched back in 2012. Compared to the GK107 GPU found in the GT 750M, it is a larger, more powerful (and at least in the desktop, more power-hungry) GPU, designed for more powerful devices than GK107 was. As for why Apple opted to switch now and to this GPU, we’ll leave that to Apple, AMD, and NVIDIA, though it’s by no means surprising that after having run GK107 for a couple of years, they would want to upgrade to a more powerful GPU.
Meanwhile, though we don’t have M370X on-hand at the moment, at least in the desktop, where GPU performance is unrestricted by thermals, Cape Verde fares very well. The rMBP on the other hand does have thermal constraints to deal with, so performance won’t be the same, but I expect it to fare reasonably well as well. Though at the same time I’m also curious if the use of a higher performance part has impacted the rMBP’s battery life when the dGPU is active; AMD and NVIDIA both do heavy binning, so a simple extrapolation won’t work here.
Update: And no sooner do I post this then someone sends me a screenshot of GPU-Z from a 15" rMBP running Boot Camp.
GPU-Z, for those unfamiliar with it, uses register poking to identify GPUs, so if the device ID wasn't enough, this settles it. This also confirms the clockspeeds - 800MHz core, 4.5GHz VRAM - and that the M370X is using GDDR5, unlike it's M375 counterpart. Thank you DMDrew812.
Source: Reddit User ootan (via SH SOTN)
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testbug00 - Saturday, May 23, 2015 - linkor maybe it's Nvidia pissing Apple of. Or AMD supporting open standards (OpenCL) much better than Nvidia. AMD pricing was likely better, also.
And, Apple could pay a few billion dollars and get PowerVR to develop a larger GPU for them. Actually, they probably would just buy PowerVR outright I think.
Tams80 - Monday, May 25, 2015 - linkIt's still a good GPU. You're acting like they put in a bottom of the barrel GPU.
TEAMSWITCHER - Wednesday, May 27, 2015 - linkNot too long ago you could get an entry level 15" MacBook Pro for $1600. Today, Apple is gouging customers some $400 more for essentially the same product. And the storage options offer almost nothing over smaller screen MacBooks. Now, the high-end 15" MacBook Pro seems to mirror high-price and ho-hum components of the low-end model. No doubt about it..the wheels have come off the MacBook bus. Wait a year to see if they can correct their series of mistakes...then move on if they don't.
krumme - Saturday, May 23, 2015 - linkCry me a river record
jerrylzy - Saturday, May 23, 2015 - linkM370X seems to be more powerful than GT 750M Mac Edition...According to GFXBench 3.1:
darwinosx - Sunday, May 24, 2015 - linkI was planning on upgrading my Gen 2 retina MBP but not now. I do realize the benefits of the amazingly fast ssd and I think developers will do interesting things with Force Touch but I do care about gpu and this is just ridiculous.
Zarniw00p - Sunday, May 24, 2015 - linkCape Verde mobile versions have been GCN 1.1 since 2013.
Zarniw00p - Sunday, May 24, 2015 - linkFrom AMD's driver: 6821 = Venus XT
And Venus XT = 8870M
So, M370X = 8870M = Venus XT
Zarniw00p - Sunday, May 24, 2015 - linkSo, M370X is actually part of AMD's Solar System chips, and they support GNC 1.1.
Ryan Smith - Sunday, May 24, 2015 - linkUnfortunately not. Solar Systems are not all GCN 1.1, there are a number of GCN 1.0 rebrands in there (like Cape Verde)