AMD Quietly Unveils Radeon M400 Series: Starting With Rebadgesby Ryan Smith on May 14, 2016 8:40 AM EST
As our long-time readers are keenly aware, the product cycles followed by PC OEMs and ODMs for their laptops and desktops are rarely perfectly in sync with the development cycles of the underlying processors. With a desire to refresh their PCs on a yearly basis – whether or not new processors are available – OEMs lean on their suppliers to come up with newer parts to fill out these devices. Consequently, it has become a semi-annual ritual for the GPU vendors to rebadge parts of their lineups to meet the needs of OEMs, shuffling together old and new parts as part of a continuous cycle of upgrades and replacements.
Kicking off this latest cycle, this week AMD quietly updated the laptop GPU section of their website to add the Radeon M400 series, the latest generation of AMD’s notebook (and AIO desktop) GPUs. And to cut right to the chase, while this year is going to be an important year for AMD with the launch of their Polaris architecture and its accompanying GPUs, Polaris isn’t upon us quite yet. Instead what AMD has published are the customary 28nm rebadges that will be fleshing out the M400 line, presumably positioned around where Polaris will land a bit later this year.
As these product updates aren’t coming alongside any other formal product announcement, there’s little information on AMD’s branding/positioning direction at this time. So the information we have is limited to some basic hardware specifications. Given the timing of this release – just two weeks before Computex – I expect we’ll see more from AMD as part of their annual Computex presentations. In the meantime if you see Radeon M400 parts start to show up in laptop specification sheets ahead of Computex, here is what’s going on under the hood.
|AMD R9 M400 Series GPU Specifications|
|R9 M485X||R9 M470X||R9 M470|
|Was||Variant of R9 M395X||Variant of R9 M385X||Variant of R9 M380|
|Memory Clock||<= 5Gbps GDDR5||<= 6Gbps GDDR5||<= 6Gbps GDDR5|
|Memory Bus Width||256-bit||128-bit||128-bit|
|Manufacturing Process||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm|
|Architecture||GCN 1.2||GCN 1.1||GCN 1.1|
The sizable high-performance Radeon R9 M300 family has been trimmed significantly for the R9 M400 family, which at least until the launch of Polaris is composed of three products: M485X, M470X, and M470. The former is identical in specification to R9 M395X, making it a rebadged GCN 1.2 Tonga part with all 2048 SPs enabled. Meanwhile the M470 series follows the M380 series, making it rebadges of the GCN 1.1 Bonaire GPU. M470X would be a fully enabled part with all 896 SPs enabled, while M470 cuts that down to 768 SPs.
Meanwhile, not found here are any parts based on AMD’s venerable GCN 1.0 Pitcairn GPU. After a run of over 4 years, it looks like Pitcairn has set off on a well-deserved retirement.
|AMD R7 M400 Series GPU Specifications|
|R7 M465X||R7 M465||R7 M460||R7 M445||R7 M440|
|Was||Variant of R9 M370||Variant of R7 M370||Variant of R7 M360||Variant of R7 M340||Variant of R7 M340|
|Memory Clock||<= 4.5Gbps GDDR5||<= 4.6Gbps GDDR5||<= 2Gbps DDR3||<= 4Gbps GDDR5||<= 2Gbps DDR3|
|Memory Bus Width||128-bit||64/128-bit||64-bit||64-bit||64-bit|
|Manufacturing Process||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm|
|Architecture||GCN 1.0||GCN 1.2||GCN 1.2||GCN 1.2||GCN 1.2|
As for the R7 level of GPUs, AMD is introducing 5 different models. The part that immediately sticks out the most is the 512 SP R7 M465X, which has no immediate predecessor in AMD’s catalog. Based on the limited information here, this looks to be a cut-down version of R9 M370 series, which utilized the GCN 1.0 Cape Verde GPU. This part doesn’t feature all of Cape Verde’s SPs enabled, but does retain the higher bandwidth offered by GDDR5.
Below the M465X things get murkier with the remaining M460 series and M440 series parts. AMD has a number of overlapping parts here, and the underlying configurations are not well documented to the public. The M465 could be multiple parts, but most likely we’re looking at Topaz in two different configurations, with one featuring the full 128-bit memory bus, while another features a neutered 64-bit memory bus. In any case these seem to be rebadges/retools of the R7 M370, meaning we’re looking at 384 SPs with differing amounts of memory bandwidth. The M460 on the other hand looks to be a straight-up rebadge of the M360, another Topaz-esque part with a 64-bit memory bus and DDR3 memory.
Rounding out the R7 collection is the M440 and M445, each of which features 320 SPs. These again are likely Topaz parts, with the published difference being the memory technology. M445 uses GDDR5 on a 64-bit memory bus, while M440 uses DDR3 on the same sized bus. These are essentially rebadges/retools of the R7 M340.
|AMD R5 M400 Series GPU Specifications|
|R5 M435||R5 M430||R5 M420|
|Was||New||Variant of R5 M330||Variant of R5 M320|
|Memory Clock||<= 4Gbps GDDR5||<= 2Gbps DDR3||<= 2Gbps DDR3|
|Memory Bus Width||64-bit||64-bit||64-bit|
|Manufacturing Process||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm||TSMC 28nm|
|Architecture||GCN 1.2||GCN 1.2||GCN 1.2|
Finally bringing up the rear are the R5 M400 series. These 320 SP parts are likely candidates to be paired with APUs for dual graphics operation. At the top of the list is the R5 M435, and highly unusual for an R5 part features GDDR5 memory on a 64-bit memory bus. AMD has never offered a 320 SP part with GDDR5 before, so while it’s vaguely similar to the R7 340, it has no real predecessor. Meanwhile the R5 M430 and M420 are almost certainly direct rebadges of the M330 and M320 respectively.
The bigger question of course is where products based on AMD’s forthcoming Polaris GPUs will fit into these lineups. Having undertaken their annual rebadge, at this point it’s safe to assume that the Polaris parts will be sold under the M400 banner as well. And given the performance AMD has been touting, I’m sure we’ll be looking at a fuller R9 M400 lineup once that happens. In the meantime we’ll have to see what AMD has planned for the Radeon Mobility family at Computex.
Source: AMD (via SH SOTN)
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farmergann - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - linkThe m465x would more or less be a match for Carrizo's Gen3 GCN, no? I'd correct that if I were you guys :)
yannigr2 - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - linkI hope someone hit that warp speed button because that trip to Polaris takes to much time. Not to mention that the Borg(the green color on their ships is no coincidence) just gone transwarp.
none12345 - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - linkWell considering that nvidia said the 1070 will NOT have gddr5x, and thats a $380/$450 card, i would also doubt the amd ~$300 polaris cards having gddr5x.
I think yields on gddr5x have been too poor to expect it mainstreem. And i guess hbm2 is either too expensive or yields have been too poor for that to be mainstream as well.
So, looks like its still gddr5 for mainstream for this generation.
extide - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - linkYields are not the issue with GDDR5x, it is not produced on a brand new process. It is just a brand new product and the supply chains and manufacturing isn't spun up to full speed yet.
SunLord - Saturday, May 14, 2016 - linkI wonder if AMD is gonna skip a number and use the 500 series for the new chips. It's also possible if not likely that amd will never have any new chips in the R5 segment at elast not until they run out of 28nm chips and will only focus on the new R7 and R9 which is what the P10 and P11 will be
ET - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - linkIs Topaz really GCN 1.2? Couldn't find a lot of info about it on the web, but it's said to be in the R7 265M, and from my experience with that chip it's not GCN 1.2.
Some of the low end ones don't make sense. The R5 M435 for example looks like it has the same config as the R7 M440 but with GDDR5.
vladx - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - linkI really think Polaris will be M5xx, but knowing AMD they'll probably try to confuse consumers even more.
vladx - Sunday, May 15, 2016 - linkDisgusting stuff from AMD, really.
SeanJ76 - Monday, May 23, 2016 - linkLOL@more RE-BRANDS!!!
AMD must be really good at it by now, they don't sell gpus/cpus very often, so they have to re-brand lots of inventory that no one buys! Geez, they should be out of business by now, they have less than 14% of the gpu market currently, and even less of the desktop cpu market.....