intels lazyness has already peaked probably around 4th or 5th generation. they are under heavy pressure from amd and their slow 10nm start. and amd is probably about to come out with something more competitive than ever for the mainstream desktop market.
but if you look at intel today you can already see the results of the pressure. 9th gen has some insane value buys. 9600k and 9700k offer the best performance/price ever for those brackets in gaming. and they finnaly put stim back on the cpus. these early signs are good hopefully they keep it up. it takes a long time to develop these products so we could see them pushing forward again in 4+ years if they remember this lesson amd is teaching them.
How is 9700k a value buy when you can get AMD $100 cheaper and with enabled SMT (+50% MT performance, unlike Intel's HT which is disabled in i7 anyway)?
They bet too much on 10nm, and when it was delayed so much, they didn't have any competition to force them to re-spin Ice Lake onto 14nm right away. And when Zen came out, it probably was too late, since such things take time.
Basically, decisions from years ago haunt them today, as they can't react fast enough without 10nm. For competitiveness sake, lets all hope that 10nm arrives in 2020 and delivers what was promised - then we might get actual competition back with updated products from both vendors.
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BigMamaInHouse - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
No Refresh can save them this time...malukkhel - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
Yeah ryzen is gonna hit hard this time I think (and I wish as well). Intel has become too lazyFreckledTrout - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
They have become fat and lazy but they are a world class athlete. If they get back in shape they will be back in 2020.Opencg - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
intels lazyness has already peaked probably around 4th or 5th generation. they are under heavy pressure from amd and their slow 10nm start. and amd is probably about to come out with something more competitive than ever for the mainstream desktop market.but if you look at intel today you can already see the results of the pressure. 9th gen has some insane value buys. 9600k and 9700k offer the best performance/price ever for those brackets in gaming. and they finnaly put stim back on the cpus. these early signs are good hopefully they keep it up. it takes a long time to develop these products so we could see them pushing forward again in 4+ years if they remember this lesson amd is teaching them.
nice to have competition in the market again.
peevee - Thursday, May 2, 2019 - link
How is 9700k a value buy when you can get AMD $100 cheaper and with enabled SMT (+50% MT performance, unlike Intel's HT which is disabled in i7 anyway)?240hzGamer - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
Can you provide me lottery numbers please? Thank younevcairiel - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
They bet too much on 10nm, and when it was delayed so much, they didn't have any competition to force them to re-spin Ice Lake onto 14nm right away. And when Zen came out, it probably was too late, since such things take time.Basically, decisions from years ago haunt them today, as they can't react fast enough without 10nm. For competitiveness sake, lets all hope that 10nm arrives in 2020 and delivers what was promised - then we might get actual competition back with updated products from both vendors.
sorten - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
I agree. AMD is going to own the desktop market in about two months.TEAMSWITCHER - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
Not likely..Korguz - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
i guess you are using the same crystal ball and can see the future like HStewart, TeamSwitcher ???