Yes a few hundred mghz is going to make a big difference lol. Still 14nm, still the same architecture this is going to be hot and not in a good way. A pass for me I'm buying AMD specially if you look at the prices.
I did not feel any reason to upgrade since i5-3210m. Its on verge of beeing to too weak but it was not compelling to change to literally ANYTHING since. I was looking into ryzenz 3X series but then I heard about 4'th and decided to wait :) a good choice.
Wow, good for you. I have an i7-5500u and I am really, really looking forward to a Ryzen 4800H or 4900HS (I'm waiting for the reviews to see if the 4900HS is worth the extra money ... the Zephyrus G14 sure looks good on paper). 2 cores are miserable today, miserable. My high-end Portegé laptop, with NVM and 16GB of RAM takes 2 minutes to boot. 2 minutes ... I cannot imagine having 2 cores and no hypertreading.
Assuming you haven't done anything weird with your OS, that slow boot is down to BIOS/UEFI and drivers. I have machines where the one with better CPU and SSD boots slower than the other even with a fresh OS installation and the minimum set of drivers (Intel chipset/GPU).
The problem is actually *running* stuff where the CPU just chokes when you're starting up something new. One of my laptops does this and the CPU just spikes to 100% and chokes when I start Webex for example, leaving me unable to do almost anything else. If you can wait and take your time it may be fine. Same if you don't do much on your PC. But having to do something productive (WFH for example) and waiting for the system to slowly digest any workload can be very frustrating.
A fresh install would probably help, but the point is, to put it in your words, that the CPU chokes easily when you push it. I'm a heavy multitasker, with email, a couple of browsers with several tabs, OneNote, various Office programs, and some cooperative suites. Nothing that by itself would be CPU intensive, but add background services (syncing on cloud drives, backup, antivirus) and you "feel" it slowing down more often than not. In my opinion, buying a new laptop, today, means quad-core, 8-thread, as an absolute minimum, but looking ahead a few years, 6-cores or more is the way to go. That said ... 135W peak ... No, thank you.
16GB is really not a measure of the ultimate resource that it alone gives faster boot times. The key is a combo of factors 1) Reduce start-up items 2) Get new NVMe stick preferably MLC NAND 3) Reinstall OS on new NVMe without cloning then transfer files and reinstall apps 4) Match RAM speeds to PCB/ Motherboard FBS, if higher power rating change to lower 5) Check thermals at boot to make sure fan is optimally functioning if not correct by cleaning CPU and GPU heat-sink contacts with isopropyl alcohol and reapplying thermal paste.... There are so many correctives but something is surely wrong. Have 2TB SSD, 50% used that is faster than your machine. I do 1 min 34 sec at boot
No, each browser tab consumes power, multi tasking between multiple browser windows AND tabs can destroy a dual core and heavily affect a quad core. add Office and other apps like Photoshop, etc..
I don't think I can explain your boot time. I have a Bay Trail Celeron N2840 in my Aspire E11. It has 8GB of RAM and a cheap Kingston 1TB 2.5 inch SSD with an OEM Windows 8.1 install copied off the original 250GB hard drive via Clonezilla. It boots to a login screen in about 8 seconds and after typing in my password, I'm at a usable desktop in another 10 or so seconds. Yes it very quickly reaches the limits of its low power dual core CPU, but there is something horribly wrong if going from pressing the power button to getting to a usable system takes it two minutes.
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TheMighty - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
Yes a few hundred mghz is going to make a big difference lol. Still 14nm, still the same architecture this is going to be hot and not in a good way. A pass for me I'm buying AMD specially if you look at the prices.deil - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
I did not feel any reason to upgrade since i5-3210m. Its on verge of beeing to too weak but it was not compelling to change to literally ANYTHING since. I was looking into ryzenz 3X series but then I heard about 4'th and decided to wait :) a good choice.yankeeDDL - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
Wow, good for you. I have an i7-5500u and I am really, really looking forward to a Ryzen 4800H or 4900HS (I'm waiting for the reviews to see if the 4900HS is worth the extra money ... the Zephyrus G14 sure looks good on paper).2 cores are miserable today, miserable. My high-end Portegé laptop, with NVM and 16GB of RAM takes 2 minutes to boot. 2 minutes ... I cannot imagine having 2 cores and no hypertreading.
close - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
Assuming you haven't done anything weird with your OS, that slow boot is down to BIOS/UEFI and drivers. I have machines where the one with better CPU and SSD boots slower than the other even with a fresh OS installation and the minimum set of drivers (Intel chipset/GPU).The problem is actually *running* stuff where the CPU just chokes when you're starting up something new. One of my laptops does this and the CPU just spikes to 100% and chokes when I start Webex for example, leaving me unable to do almost anything else. If you can wait and take your time it may be fine. Same if you don't do much on your PC. But having to do something productive (WFH for example) and waiting for the system to slowly digest any workload can be very frustrating.
yankeeDDL - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
A fresh install would probably help, but the point is, to put it in your words, that the CPU chokes easily when you push it. I'm a heavy multitasker, with email, a couple of browsers with several tabs, OneNote, various Office programs, and some cooperative suites. Nothing that by itself would be CPU intensive, but add background services (syncing on cloud drives, backup, antivirus) and you "feel" it slowing down more often than not. In my opinion, buying a new laptop, today, means quad-core, 8-thread, as an absolute minimum, but looking ahead a few years, 6-cores or more is the way to go. That said ... 135W peak ... No, thank you.imaheadcase - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
What you described has nothing to do with the CPU, that is %100 ram.yankeeDDL - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
Highly unlikely: I have 16Gb...ICT Buff - Saturday, April 4, 2020 - link
16GB is really not a measure of the ultimate resource that it alone gives faster boot times. The key is a combo of factors 1) Reduce start-up items 2) Get new NVMe stick preferably MLC NAND 3) Reinstall OS on new NVMe without cloning then transfer files and reinstall apps 4) Match RAM speeds to PCB/ Motherboard FBS, if higher power rating change to lower 5) Check thermals at boot to make sure fan is optimally functioning if not correct by cleaning CPU and GPU heat-sink contacts with isopropyl alcohol and reapplying thermal paste.... There are so many correctives but something is surely wrong. Have 2TB SSD, 50% used that is faster than your machine. I do 1 min 34 sec at boottamalero - Tuesday, April 7, 2020 - link
No, each browser tab consumes power, multi tasking between multiple browser windows AND tabs can destroy a dual core and heavily affect a quad core.add Office and other apps like Photoshop, etc..
Man.. its a good time to upgrade of laptops.
PeachNCream - Thursday, April 2, 2020 - link
I don't think I can explain your boot time. I have a Bay Trail Celeron N2840 in my Aspire E11. It has 8GB of RAM and a cheap Kingston 1TB 2.5 inch SSD with an OEM Windows 8.1 install copied off the original 250GB hard drive via Clonezilla. It boots to a login screen in about 8 seconds and after typing in my password, I'm at a usable desktop in another 10 or so seconds. Yes it very quickly reaches the limits of its low power dual core CPU, but there is something horribly wrong if going from pressing the power button to getting to a usable system takes it two minutes.