It seems like it's a similar question on the high-end. Motherboards makers provide full Windows 7 drivers for the X299 chipset, but does Microsoft actually allow Windows Update support for Skylake-X CPUs?
What a scam, Windows10 is a hot pile of spyware so much so that Intel and motherboard makers have to spend time and money developing new Windows 7 offerings still, LOL. Microsoft needs to pull their head out of the governments ass, take out the junk in Windows, and release LTSB as their base product. I mean even the friggin Server OS in 2019 STILL has mobile crap embedded and defaulted to ON, i.e. "Allow access to the camera on this device" & "Allow access to call history on this device", absurd.
You do not have to install the GUI part ("Desktop Experience") for Windows Server. You can run it as a Core installation only. That's been around for a while now.
I'm not quite as upset as Bob about server, but there are some capabilities that are a bit odd to enable by default to a server operating system with the GUI installed. Then again, there have been questionable value-adds for server operating systems out of Microsoft for ages so this isn't anything new. Harden your systems and get on with life.
Not on Raven Ridge (APUs) which is the more interesting platform (as opposed to iGPU-less Ryzen) for business users.
If AMD was smart the'd make APUs function on Windows 7. They got working Windows 7 dGPU drivers based on same architecture, they got working Windows 7 chipset drivers for Ryzen chipsets so it would take minimal effort to get all those businesses and private users who are unwilling to downgrade to Windows 10 to buy their own hardware.
AMD would instantly gain 100% marker share in respectably large market share thanks to Intel going full ret@rd ...
AMD would definitely be wise to pull this move...LOL. I'm shocked no gaming monitor maker has went to 16:10 yet to tap that market. There are a ton of us our here wondering who the heck started this idea of wider is better crap monitors! The price to make these isn't so high that the market won't allow it (witness all the profits being made on HEDT, top end gpus, etc).
This is a huge market for AMD, as most of the market in enterprise is completely ignoring win10 and all the crap that comes with it (like completely re-educating your userbase on how to use windows...ROFL). This is why MSFT never talks enterprise win10 adoption rates. They are not much better than Vista/win8/8.1.
"Microsoft limited support for the latest CPUs on Windows 7 back in 2016, which is why AMD’s Ryzen as well as Intel’s Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, and some other chips cannot work with this OS."
As someone who has Win7 installed on both Ryzen and Coffee Lake systems today, as I type this, this isn't true. It takes like, 10 minutes of research to get it working just fine.
Yes, still does, though there are ways around it. Specifically a certain update KB patch causes windows updates to recognize it shouldn't be getting any further updates.
Are you sure about this? From everything I'm reading it seems you can manage to install Win 7 but the USB ports on your MB won't work with Win 7 drivers. My sister just bought parts to build her first gaming rig, Z390 mobo with i7-8700K, and unable to use USB keyboard/mouse or PS/2 Keyboard in Win 7 OS install, so cannot install Win 7 yet. But even if she manages to install, would all the USB ports be inactive?
only on summit ridge ryzen - I had a rude surprise when I upgraded my HTPC and did all of the steps to automate the ryzen driver install (lessons learned from my summit ridge build and Ian's excellent guide) only to have win7 immediately error on start.
if MSFT would do a "legacy mode" that is near identical to what Windows 7 is for the GUI and the way control panel operates, not force driver updates etc they likely would have almost everyone on Win 10 currently, but they pulled a stupid and claim to be "better" and "start menu is back" BS instead it is a "modernized" METRO.
why can they not learn, most people are "ok" with keeping the familiar the same as long as it just works, dummies think that everyone wants basically everything to change and the end user to basically use their internet bandwidth to host updates instead of MSFT being the host (as they always have)
They claim to be "modern" but are doing some really stupid moves from the day Win 8 launched until now where Windows is a "service" instead of an operating system that the USER controls.
they really should have a Windows 7 "pseudo mode" they can do it, if they bothered to try
MSFT is one of those companies that think they are too big and important to fail. They've been going against the feedback of their customers for years. I'd love for MSFT to implement everything that you mentioned above. The likeliness of that happening is fairly low at this point. We'll see what happens a year after extended support for windows 7 ends and what the statistics show.
You can install Windows 7 on a Coffee Lake system, no problem except perhaps drivers. You don't get the latest Turbo Boost behavior, oh well. This really required a hardware change? Windows update, oh well. Surf safe and u a good security suite and u should be good
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PingSpike - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
Colorful C.H310M-E D3 V20The model number suggests this may be a DDR3 motherboard.
GreenMeters - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
If MS would just release a Win10-compatible version of Media Center, or open source it so someone can continue the work, I'd gladly upgrade.Samus - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
That still pisses me off to this day I continue to run Windows 8.1 with the media pack extension just for that reason...spaceship9876 - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link
can you not just use Kodi?ltcommanderdata - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
It seems like it's a similar question on the high-end. Motherboards makers provide full Windows 7 drivers for the X299 chipset, but does Microsoft actually allow Windows Update support for Skylake-X CPUs?BobSwi - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
What a scam, Windows10 is a hot pile of spyware so much so that Intel and motherboard makers have to spend time and money developing new Windows 7 offerings still, LOL.Microsoft needs to pull their head out of the governments ass, take out the junk in Windows, and release LTSB as their base product.
I mean even the friggin Server OS in 2019 STILL has mobile crap embedded and defaulted to ON, i.e. "Allow access to the camera on this device" & "Allow access to call history on this device", absurd.
romrunning - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
Ease up on the FUD.You do not have to install the GUI part ("Desktop Experience") for Windows Server. You can run it as a Core installation only. That's been around for a while now.
PeachNCream - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
I'm not quite as upset as Bob about server, but there are some capabilities that are a bit odd to enable by default to a server operating system with the GUI installed. Then again, there have been questionable value-adds for server operating systems out of Microsoft for ages so this isn't anything new. Harden your systems and get on with life.darckhart - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
Any word if AMD plans to do same?Samus - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
Wait, I thought Ryzen run fine on Windows 7?Arnulf - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link
Not on Raven Ridge (APUs) which is the more interesting platform (as opposed to iGPU-less Ryzen) for business users.If AMD was smart the'd make APUs function on Windows 7. They got working Windows 7 dGPU drivers based on same architecture, they got working Windows 7 chipset drivers for Ryzen chipsets so it would take minimal effort to get all those businesses and private users who are unwilling to downgrade to Windows 10 to buy their own hardware.
AMD would instantly gain 100% marker share in respectably large market share thanks to Intel going full ret@rd ...
TheJian - Tuesday, August 14, 2018 - link
AMD would definitely be wise to pull this move...LOL. I'm shocked no gaming monitor maker has went to 16:10 yet to tap that market. There are a ton of us our here wondering who the heck started this idea of wider is better crap monitors! The price to make these isn't so high that the market won't allow it (witness all the profits being made on HEDT, top end gpus, etc).This is a huge market for AMD, as most of the market in enterprise is completely ignoring win10 and all the crap that comes with it (like completely re-educating your userbase on how to use windows...ROFL). This is why MSFT never talks enterprise win10 adoption rates. They are not much better than Vista/win8/8.1.
Cygni - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
"Microsoft limited support for the latest CPUs on Windows 7 back in 2016, which is why AMD’s Ryzen as well as Intel’s Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, and some other chips cannot work with this OS."As someone who has Win7 installed on both Ryzen and Coffee Lake systems today, as I type this, this isn't true. It takes like, 10 minutes of research to get it working just fine.
danwat1234 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
THANK YOU. Windows 7 can work with Coffee Lake as it is. Anandtech should know better.Ryan Smith - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
As far as I know, Microsoft should still be blocking updates to Windows 7 machines running Kaby Lake or newer. Has that changed?Namisecond - Saturday, September 22, 2018 - link
There's a big difference between "Windows 7 can work with Coffee Lake as it is" and "Windows 7 is officially supported"Namisecond - Saturday, September 22, 2018 - link
Yes, still does, though there are ways around it. Specifically a certain update KB patch causes windows updates to recognize it shouldn't be getting any further updates.Ningen4Life - Monday, December 17, 2018 - link
Are you sure about this? From everything I'm reading it seems you can manage to install Win 7 but the USB ports on your MB won't work with Win 7 drivers. My sister just bought parts to build her first gaming rig, Z390 mobo with i7-8700K, and unable to use USB keyboard/mouse or PS/2 Keyboard in Win 7 OS install, so cannot install Win 7 yet. But even if she manages to install, would all the USB ports be inactive?drexnx - Monday, August 13, 2018 - link
only on summit ridge ryzen - I had a rude surprise when I upgraded my HTPC and did all of the steps to automate the ryzen driver install (lessons learned from my summit ridge build and Ian's excellent guide) only to have win7 immediately error on start.there is no way to get rav ridge to work on 7.
Grayswean - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
Good example of why to stay out of walled gardens. Can't upgrade to new CPU without upgrading OS or buying a OS-specific chipset.Dragonstongue - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
if MSFT would do a "legacy mode" that is near identical to what Windows 7 is for the GUI and the way control panel operates, not force driver updates etc they likely would have almost everyone on Win 10 currently, but they pulled a stupid and claim to be "better" and "start menu is back" BS instead it is a "modernized" METRO.why can they not learn, most people are "ok" with keeping the familiar the same as long as it just works, dummies think that everyone wants basically everything to change and the end user to basically use their internet bandwidth to host updates instead of MSFT being the host (as they always have)
They claim to be "modern" but are doing some really stupid moves from the day Win 8 launched until now where Windows is a "service" instead of an operating system that the USER controls.
they really should have a Windows 7 "pseudo mode" they can do it, if they bothered to try
Namisecond - Saturday, September 22, 2018 - link
MSFT is one of those companies that think they are too big and important to fail. They've been going against the feedback of their customers for years. I'd love for MSFT to implement everything that you mentioned above. The likeliness of that happening is fairly low at this point. We'll see what happens a year after extended support for windows 7 ends and what the statistics show.danwat1234 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link
You can install Windows 7 on a Coffee Lake system, no problem except perhaps drivers. You don't get the latest Turbo Boost behavior, oh well.This really required a hardware change?
Windows update, oh well. Surf safe and u a good security suite and u should be good
Namisecond - Saturday, September 22, 2018 - link
If you don't pay attention to your windows updates, you'll also stop getting all updates, even security updates, after a certain point.There's a big difference between getting an OS to run on a hardware platform and official support.
window10 - Monday, August 13, 2018 - link
Just would like to say thanks for the information pertaining to Windows 7 64bit nothing else anywhere had a solution besides reinstalling.